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{{Infobox Item
|release = [[23 September]] [[2009]]
|update = Woodcutting Rebalance
|name = Special mahogany log
|image = [[File:Special mahogany log.png]]
|members = Yes
|quest = No
|tradeable = No
|tradeable = No
|equipable = No
|high = 60
|low = 40
|stackable = No
|value = 100
|destroy = You will need to chop down another special log if you destroy this one.
|store = No
|examine = The sawmill vendor might be interested in this.
|weight = 1.4
}}
'''Special mahogany logs''' can be obtained by chopping down [[Mahogany tree]]s. They yield the same amount of Woodcutting experience as normal mahogany logs when chopped.

Special mahogany logs have two uses:
*Sell them to the [[Sawmill Operator]] for money, north-east of [[Varrock]] for 3,900 coins each.
*Exchange 2 of them for a completely free conversion of the logs in your inventory into planks. (In this case, 1 special mahogany log can be worth up to 19500 coins).
Special mahogany logs cannot be lit for [[Firemaking]] experience.

==Special Logs==
The free conversion requires 2 of the same type of special log.

2 special mahogany logs can be used to convert up to 26 [[teak log]]s and/or [[mahogany log]]s into teak/mahogany planks saving you up to 39,000 coins (26 mahogany logs at 1,500 coins each).

If you have 1 special or 1 of each, the sawmill owner will only offer to buy your special logs.

==Drop Rates==
The estimated chance of cutting a special mahogany log is close to 2%. Being random it is possible to get several per load, or go many loads without any. It appears unlikely that woodcutting level or wearing a [[strung rabbit foot]] increases the chance of obtaining a special log, despite claims to the contrary. Using an [[inferno adze]] to collect special mahogany logs will decrease the overall yield of special mahogany logs, so a standard [[hatchet]] is recommended.

It has been noted by some players that it appears as though you are unable to obtain special logs while carrying a woodcutting urn in your inventory, but this is a myth, as it has been tested and special logs were received at roughly the same rate.

==Financial considerations==
A large part of the financial return on cutting mahogany comes through the conversion of a load of 26 [[Mahogany logs]] to [[Mahogany plank]]s using 2 special logs at the [[Sawmill operator]]. Mahogany planks are in high demand for the [[Construction]] skill.

With an estimated special mahogany log drop rate of 2%, out of every 100 logs you would have 2 special logs, which gives you 26 mahogany planks and 100-26-2=72 mahogany logs (if you convert 26 Mahogany logs with the 2 special mahogany logs at the sawmill, losing the 2 special logs). The current [[Grand exchange]] price for [[Mahogany logs]] is {{GEPrice|Mahogany logs}} coins and [[Mahogany plank]]s are {{GEPrice|Mahogany plank}} coins. Thus 100 mahogany logs (of which 2 are special) are worth 26 × {{GEPrice|Mahogany plank}} + 72 × {{GEPrice|Mahogany logs}} = {{Coins|Amount={{GEP|Mahogany plank}}*26 + {{GEP|Mahogany logs}}*72 }} which is an average of {{Coins|Amount=({{GEP|Mahogany plank}}*26 + {{GEP|Mahogany logs}}*72)/100 round 0}} per log at current [[Grand exchange]] prices. These rates are superior to cutting [[Yew logs]] which take longer to cut and are sold for {{Coins|Amount={{GEP|Yew logs}}}} per log, albeit without the need for trips to the sawmill.

When cutting logs at the [[Hardwood grove]] and banking with [[Rionasta]] using [[Trading sticks]], each log takes 10 sticks to bank at a cost of 10 × {{GEPrice| Trading_sticks}} = {{Coins|Amount={{GEP|Trading sticks}}*10}} per log. Further each entry to the [[Hardwood grove]] costs 100 [[Trading sticks]]. By only carrying trading sticks and wielding a hatchet, 27 logs can be harvested per trip (without a [[Beast of burden]]) at an additional cost of {{Coins|Amount={{GEP|Trading sticks}}*100/27 round 0}} per log. Thus the total "tax" per log at current grand exchange rates for trading sticks is {{Coins|Amount={{GEP|Trading sticks}}*(10+100/27) round 0}}.

(Note: if you have completed [[Deadliest Catch]], then there is a deposit box northwest of the general store that you can freely use, taking the parcel service out of the equation completely.)

At level 82 woodcutting at a fairly brisk rate of entering and exiting the grove and banking with [[Rionasta]] one can harvest and bank at least 410 mahogany logs/hr, and at level 93 at least 430/hr. At level 82, excluding time for sawmill trips, but subtracting out the banking and entry fees at market rates for [[Trading sticks]], the return on mahogany log cutting in the [[Hardwood grove]] comes to {{Coins|Amount=(({{GEP|Mahogany plank}}*26 + {{GEP|Mahogany logs}}*72)/100 - ({{GEP|Trading sticks}}*10 + {{GEP|Trading sticks}}*100/27))*410 round 0}} per hour, and {{Coins|Amount=(({{GEP|Mahogany plank}}*26 + {{GEP|Mahogany logs}}*72)/100 - ({{GEP|Trading sticks}}*10 + {{GEP|Trading sticks}}*100/27))*430 round 0}} at level 93. This is more profitable than cutting [[Magic logs]] which produces approximately {{Coins|Amount=(112*{{GEP|Magic logs}})}} per hr at 93 woodcutting.

The occasional bird's nest would increase the hourly return. Higher woodcutting levels would increase the speed of harvesting and hence the hourly return. At a 2% special mahogany log drop rate, the expected return per log is {{#expr:(({{GEP|Mahogany plank}}*26 + {{GEP|Mahogany logs}}*72)/100 - ({{GEP|Trading sticks}}*10 + {{GEP|Trading sticks}}*100/27)) round 0}} coins, which can be multiplied by ones expected number of logs cut per hour to get an hourly return (excluding time for sawmill trips).

Sawmill trips for plank conversion do take some time, but are well worth the effort. By running 26 mahogany logs with 2 specials from the east varrock bank to the [[Sawmill operator]] for conversion, resting on the return trip with the musician (with ~50 agility), it is easily possible to convert 1,014 mahogany logs to mahogany planks per hour, which is worth {{Coins|Amount={{GEP|Mahogany plank}}*1014}}, as opposed to selling the logs on the grand exchange for {{Coins|Amount={{GEP|Mahogany logs}}*1014}}, and the requisite 78 special logs to the sawmill operator for {{Coins|3900*78}}. A [[pack yak]] could nearly double this amount. Using [[lumber yard teleport]] scrolls makes this process the fastest, especially with a [[pack yak]], though the {{Coins|{{GEP|Lumber yard teleport}}}} cost per scroll can eat into profits. Teleporting to [[Castle Wars]] with a [[ring of duelling]] for banking and using the [[balloon transport system]] to travel to the sawmill is the second fastest (though it has a quest requirement), with the conversion of 1,500 or more planks per hour being achievable.

Alternatively doing this after a trip to the spa at Oo'glog will allow good number of full speed runs between Varrock east bank and the lumberyard.

==Trivia==
* In the hardwood grove in [[Tai Bwo Wannai]], if you have at least one special mahogany log and no regular mahogany or teak logs, the game will think that you have no mahogany or teak logs and will therefore prompt you with a warning message.
* [[Juju woodcutting potion]]s will send these logs direct to the bank.

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